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CI Intermittent Windows fatal exception: access violation in tests/empirical_scope_observation.py聽#261

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@lesteve

Partly generated by an agent, but I did double-check with my brain on 馃槈.

cc @itamarst in case you have some insights or you have seen something similar when putting this empirical tests together.

I may try to investigate further on my Windows VM to see if I can at least reproduce.

The problem

The Windows pylatest_conda_forge_openblas CI job intermittently crashes while running:

PYTHONPATH=. python -X faulthandler tests/empirical_scope_observation.py blas

+ python -X faulthandler tests/empirical_scope_observation.py blas
Windows fatal exception: access violation

Thread 0x00000f48 [ThreadPoolExecutor-0_0Windows fatal exception: ]access violation

 (most recent call first):

Current thread's C stack trace (most recent call first):
  <cannot get C stack on this system>
  File "D:\a\threadpoolctl\threadpoolctl\tests\empirical_scope_observation.py", line 58 in blas_math
  File "C:\Users\runneradmin\miniconda3\envs\testenv\Lib\concurrent\futures\thread.py", line 73 in run
  File "C:\Users\runneradmin\miniconda3\envs\testenv\Lib\concurrent\futures\thread.py", line 86 in run
  File "C:\Users\runneradmin\miniconda3\envs\testenv\Lib\concurrent\futures\thread.py", line 119 in _worker
  File "C:\Users\runneradmin\miniconda3\envs\testenv\Lib\threading.py", line 1024 in run
Windows fatal exception: access violation


Current thread's C stack trace (most recent call first):
  <cannot get C stack on this system>
./continuous_integration/run_tests.sh: line 34:  1491 Segmentation fault         PYTHONPATH=. python -X faulthandler tests/empirical_scope_observation.py blas
Error: Process completed with exit code 139.

Unfortunately, faulthandler doesn't show anything useful on Windows hence the cannot get C stack on this system

Environment

The September 24 failure and September 26 successful run both use:

  • Python 3.14.7, with the GIL enabled
  • NumPy 2.5.3
  • conda-forge OpenBLAS 0.3.34, pthreads build
  • The same threadpoolctl commit, f6bef5dca966327941a87f4a92673cd9c0096add

CI logs

It seems to happen quite often

To investigate further

It could be useful to capture a native crash dump with ProcDump and inspect it with WinDbg.

LLM suggestion

For this CI crash, use ProcDump to capture a dump, then inspect it with WinDbg. After downloading Microsoft ProcDump, run this in PowerShell with the conda environment activated and the repository as the working directory:

$env:PYTHONPATH = "."
New-Item -ItemType Directory -Force dumps | Out-Null

.\procdump64.exe -accepteula -ma -e 1 -f C0000005 -n 1 `
    -x dumps "$env:CONDA_PREFIX\python.exe" `
    -X faulthandler tests/empirical_scope_observation.py blas

This captures a full dump at the first access violation (C0000005), before application exception handlers run. Upload dumps/*.dmp as a CI artifact, using if: always() on the upload step. ProcDump options

Open the dump in WinDbg and run:

.symfix
.reload
!analyze -v
.ecxr
kv
~* kb

.ecxr selects the exception context; kv shows its native stack; ~* kb shows every thread鈥檚 stack.

Microsoft debugging guidance

Symbol availability determines the detail: without matching symbols, you may get DLL names and offsets rather than internal function names or source lines. Preserve the exact Python, NumPy and OpenBLAS binaries from the failing environment, plus any matching debug symbols. Even an unsymbolized trace can help establish which native library is crashing.

Activity

  1. changed the title [-]Intermittent segfault on Windows in tests/empirical_scope_observation.py[/-] [+]CI Intermittent segfault on Windows in `tests/empirical_scope_observation.py`[/+] on Oct 1, 2026
  2. changed the title [-]CI Intermittent segfault on Windows in `tests/empirical_scope_observation.py`[/-] [+]CI Intermittent access violation on Windows in `tests/empirical_scope_observation.py`[/+] on Oct 1, 2026
  3. changed the title [-]CI Intermittent access violation on Windows in `tests/empirical_scope_observation.py`[/-] [+]CI Intermittent `Windows fatal exception: access violation` in `tests/empirical_scope_observation.py`[/+] on Oct 1, 2026
  4. lesteve commented on Oct 1, 2026

    @lesteve
    MemberAuthor

    I am unable to reproduce the access violation on my Windows VM so I'll try to debug in the CI, see #262

  5. itamarst commented on Oct 1, 2026

    @itamarst
    Contributor

    Might be this? OpenMathLib/OpenBLAS#5954

    Not fixed in 0.3.34, so if they did a release that would get it out there. And then get scipy et all to rebuild their wheels.

    There's a bunch of thread-safety issues in OpenBLAS that were fixed recently, and plausibly there might be more.

  6. lesteve commented on Oct 2, 2026

    @lesteve
    MemberAuthor

    Not 100% sure, but the summary of my investigation seems to point to OpenBLAS CPU-specific issues but they also have been fixed in the develop branch. Since the failure rate is ~20% (not too high), I would say, let's wait until next OpenBLAS release and hope it goes away 馃?

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