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Mod poly and mpn_mod random generation - #2448

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@dlesnoff dlesnoff commented Oct 29, 2025

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Follow-up of #2430 .
Adds uniformly distributed rand function for the following structures:

  • nmod_poly (_, monic, irreducible)
  • nmod_poly_mat
  • mpn_mod
  • fmpz_mod_poly (_, monic, irreducible)

It seems that implementations of nmod_mpoly randtest functions generate uniformly random coefficients.
I did not add rand functions for basic types like fmpz_mod nor nmod.
Future changes:

  • rand function for mpn_mod_poly and mpn_mod_mat.

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Please forgive me, I based my branch on my previously non-merged branch and it needs some cleanup.

I think you need to rebase on main and force-push to get a clean diff.

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dlesnoff force-pushed the mod_poly-random-generation branch from c1be23c to ba6af38 Compare October 29, 2025 18:07
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I cancelled the CI workflow because they were still in testing after almost 4 hours. Please review the code carefully to see what changes to existing functions could have led to this, thanks! (I pointed at some modifications in my comments, but there may be others)

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fmpz_randtest does not generate a coefficient with increased sparsity (here, 0 with increased probability) but generates a coefficient using a number of bits. For mod functions, it requires to be reduced after being generated.
fmpz_randm generates directly a coefficient in the range [0, m) where m is a bound, but I am unsure if this function has some pseudo-uniformity guarantee (the algorithm is unspecified).
So randtest has a slight different meaning for fmpz than for structures in mod n source files.

There is probably an infinite loop, I'll do a manual bisect.

The randtest functions are using `randm` which generates positive coefficients in [0, m) range with m the modulus given by the context.
The documentation told that the coefficients are randomly signed, so I
fixed that.
I introduced a `randm_nonzero` function in fmpz to ensure that
coefficients are nonzero and replaced all occurences of `randm` in
`fmpz_mod_poly_randtest` functions by this new function.
Apart from the `rand` function, this introduces a `rand_monic` and
a `rand_irreducible` function.
I added _fmpz_mod_vec_rand with the intent to use it in
_mpn_mod_vec_rand but did not use it in the end.

This reverts commit f98e52c.
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dlesnoff force-pushed the mod_poly-random-generation branch from 21ee353 to 59f5c7d Compare October 30, 2025 11:17
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The tests halt indefinitely after gr_special_fac. I am unsure if it's related to my PR.
This commit is the culprit: Add fmpz_mod_poly_rand, rand_monic, irred funcs

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Ok, I guess that if a polynomial has nonzero coefficients, it is irreducible with much less probability. This could slow down the tests. I should indeed give up on a "randfull-like" functionality for fmpz_mod_poly_randtest functions but then what would be the point of making another rand function?

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Ok, I guess that if a polynomial has nonzero coefficients, it is irreducible with much less probability. This could slow down the tests. I should indeed give up on a "randfull-like" functionality for fmpz_mod_poly_randtest functions

This is likely indeed. I haven't looked closely at the test files and the one that is failing, but let's suppose that some test includes working modulo 2, then the new randtest using randm_nonzero will only generate coefficients that are 1 ! I don't think randtest should ban 0.

but then what would be the point of making another rand function?

In my last batch of comments, you can see that I suggest using fmpz_randtest_mod instead of fmpz_randm_nonzero. Then the randtest and rand functions for fmpz_mod_poly would become rather different and I think it would make sense to have both. (However, one question that remains, is whether this change will suffice to solve the "infinite test" issue.)

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dlesnoff force-pushed the mod_poly-random-generation branch from f5b0816 to eafe4cf Compare November 3, 2025 13:46
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I changed randm_non_zero t to randtest calls. I gave one extra bit for the random generation before taking the modulus. If you think it is not necessary, I will remove it.
I have still a few changes to perform.

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Hello, sorry for not making quickly the last modifications needed to close this PR.

As suggested in other functions, I think that in these randtest functions we may as well rely on the existing fmpz_randtest_mod.

Is this still actual? I can't remember if I did this change. I'll look into it tomorrow.

Pay attention to the previous commit. I remove an invocation to fmpz_bits. It apparently fixes a segfault, but I am not sure why it was invocated in the first place. Could you check out for this during review?

Otherwise, I made two changes:

  • fix documentation errors
  • the change so that fmpz_randm_nonzero provides a uniform distribution using the add-one trick suggested by @vneiger

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dlesnoff marked this pull request as ready for review August 6, 2026 21:18
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vneiger commented Aug 7, 2026

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Here is a first batch of comments, on the documentation.

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Pay attention to the previous commit. I remove an invocation to fmpz_bits. It apparently fixes a segfault, but I am not sure why it was invocated in the first place. Could you check out for this during review?

Yes, your change is fine, and I agree this was an extraneous invocation that was probably added by mistake.

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dlesnoff marked this pull request as draft August 16, 2026 12:02
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This looks good to me, thanks!

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vneiger merged commit d4c3e37 into flintlib:main Aug 22, 2026
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